Asylum Law and Practice In-Depth

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Based on many requests for an in-depth Asylum related program our speakers have created this program for attorneys who already have a basic understanding of the Asylum process, but need more in-depth practical knowledge.

This program is taught by some of the best immigration attorneys in the state, including the well known immigration law firm of Robert Jobe.  You will also get to hear from two retired immigration judges to get the inside scoop.

You will need a basic understanding of the Asylum process before listening this program. If you do not yet have that, we recommend our Immigration 101 courses (held in CA 2016 and FL 2016).

This program was recorded in 2014.

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What You Will Learn

Introductions and Overview

  • Statutory requirements
  • Real ID

Seeking Asylum at the Border 

  • Arriving Aliens
  • Credible fear
  • Bond Relief and Parole
  • Withholding of Removal
  • Returning Deportees
    o Reinstatement
    o Reasonable fear interviews

Developments in Particular Social Groups

  • Strategies and tactics
    • Gangs
    • Land Ownership and Wealth
    • Indigenous Groups
    • Juvenile
    • LGBT
    • Women/Gender
    • New Devlopment

How Social Science Techniques Can Help Attorneys Win Asylum Cases  [LOS ANGELES LOCATION ONLY]

  • Political Scientists use different techniques than lawyers to predict judicial behavior, which you can use to your advantage. This session will address a number of such topics including:
    • How to create a psychological profile of a judge or opposing counsel and How to use that profile to your client’s advantage
    • How to use statistical information to your client’s advantage; what stories do different variables actually tell us?
    • What is a judicial regime and why it may be more important than actual case law?
    • An academic’s suggestions on how to pick the right expert witness.

Withholding Interview


Bars to Relief

  • One-year bar issues for Asylum
    • Exceptional Circumstances Exception
    • Changed Country Conditions Exception
  • Particularly Serious Crime issues in Asylum, Withholding & CAT case
  • Safe Third Country/Firm Resettlement
  • Other miscellaneous bars: persecutor/genocide/terrorism, etc.
  • Discretion

Case Studies

  • Affirmative Asylum
  • Asylum and Immigration Court




“Excellent seminar presented by a top-notch panel. Especially enjoyed the explanation of developments in particular social groups.” Edward Pilot, Esq.

“Excellent!” Lea Nehme, Esq.



Louis A. Gordon, Esq.
Law Offices of Louis A. Gordon

Louis Gordon (admitted in the District of Columbia, New Jersey and Pennsylvania only, practice limited to Immigration & Nationality Law) has argued numerous cases before the Immigration Courts, Board of Immigration Appeals and U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. He has a J.D.from the Benjamin Cardozo School of Law and a Ph.D. in Political Science from the University of Southern California.  He is an adjunct lecturer in the Department of Political Science, at Calfornia State University at San Bernardino and in the Department of Legal Studies at American Public University, where he teaches Immigration Law.

Susan S. Han, Esq.
Founder/Certified Legal Specialist in Immigration & Nationality Law
Han Law Group

Ms. Susan S. Han is the founder and owner of Han Law Group, Immigration Attorneys. She has been practicing immigration law since 1998 and has vast experience in handling all aspects of immigration law including family-based petitions, business immigration, deportation and removal, asylum, U-visas, TPS, citizenship and naturalization, and appeals at all levels.

In addition to her practice, Ms. Han has been an adjunct professor at California State University, Los Angeles, and is a frequent guest speaker on immigration topics for various bar organization such as the Los Angeles County Bar Association (LACBA) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA).  

Ms. Han received her Bachelor of Arts degree in English Literature from the University of California, Santa Barbara. She graduated with a Juris Doctor degree from Southwestern University School of Law where she earned the American Jurisprudence Award in Constitutional Law.

Susan E. Hill, Esq.
Hill & Piibe, Immigration Attorneys

Susan E. Hill is a partner at the immigration law firm of Hill & Piibe, in charge of appellate litigation before the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, as well as nonimmigrant visas and other business/employment cases, especially in the equestrian industries. After graduating from Pepperdine University School of Law, Malibu, California in 1993, she went immediately into solo practice and has been working exclusively in the area of immigration law since 1995. She operates the firm’s Orange County office located in San Juan Capistrano.

At any time, Ms. Hill has about a dozen or more cases pending at the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, and has handled more than one hundred cases in total, with issues often focused on procedural due process, jurisdiction, statutory interpretation, Constitutional challenges, and asylum issues.

Outside of her immigration practice, Ms. Hill served as a Board Member and Co-Chair for the Domestic Violence Project of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles (WLALA), which implements the Legal Clinic for Sojourn Services for Battered Women. This Legal Clinic is located in Santa Monica, California, and dispenses free legal advice to victims of domestic violence. A volunteer with the clinic from 1994-2012, Ms. Hill assumed the role of Co-Chair from 2004-2010. 

Ms. Hill mentors several volunteer attorneys handling pro-bono immigration work, advising them on the complexities of motions to reopen and other issues. She also mentors young attorneys and students interested in immigration law.

Judith M. London, Esq.
Public Counsel

Judy London is the Directing Attorney of Public Counsel’s Immigrants’ Rights Project. From 1996 to 2000, she was the Legal Director of the Central American Resource Center (“CARECEN”) in Los Angeles and focused her work on securing enactment of the Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (“NACARA”). She joined Public Counsel in 2002, where she has expanded the agency’s SIJS and detention work, while increasing pro bono representation for asylum-seekers and crime victims seeking relief under the Violence Against Women Act (“VAWA”) and the Victims of Trafficking and Violent Crime Prevention Act (“VTVPA”). She is an Adjunct Professor at UCLA School of law where she teachers a clinical course on immigration law, focusing on the representation of asylum-seekers. She received her law degree from UCLA in 1990 and her undergraduate degree from Stanford University in 1985.

Nancy E. Miller, Esq.
Certified Specialist in Immigration & Nationality Law, State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization
Reeves, Miller, Zhang & Diza

Attorney Nancy E. Miller is Managing Partner of Reeves, Miller, Zhang & Diza. She heads the Deportation Defense and Federal Litigation Departments. She became a partner of the Firm in January 2008. She is certified by the State Bar of California as a Specialist in Immigration & Nationality Law. 

Attorney Miller has successfully represented hundreds of clients in political asylum, withholding of deportation, cancellation of removal, and criminal and fraud waiver cases before the Immigration Court, U.S. District Court and the United States Court of Appeals. She successfully argued the landmark case of Song v. INS – a U.S. District Court case involving the availability of 212(h) waivers for persons convicted of certain crimes. She is also lead counsel in the nationwide class action lawsuit Costello v. Napolitano and co-counsel in the consolidated case of De Osorio v. Mayorkas which allows adult children to retain the priority date of their parent’s petitions despite their having aged-out.

During the almost thirty years that Ms. Miller has been an attorney, she has defended clients in the immigration courts; obtained immigration and naturalization benefits for clients from the INS/DHS; defended clients in state and federal criminal proceedings; and pursued post-conviction relief, such as petitions for habeas corpus and writs of coram nobis, for non-citizens convicted of crimes. 

Alary E. Piibe, Esq.
Partner/Certified Legal Specialist in Immigration & Nationality Law
Hill & Piibe, Immigration Attorneys

Alary E. Piibe is a long-time litigator and certified as a specialist in immigration and nationality law by the State Bar of California Board of Legal Specialization who has developed keen and aggressive courtroom skills. Mr. Piibe prides himself as a formidable strategist who will make persuasive, effective presentations, and who represents his clients in a straightforward manner before US ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Department of Homeland Security), US CIS (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, Department of Homeland Security) and the Immigration Court. This litigation style translates into a benefit for his clients, and helps cause the government to make a thorough and careful consideration of the cases during the adjudication process. 

Mr. Piibe has considerable experience in applying for waivers for unlawful presence (otherwise known as “3/10 waivers” or “illegal presence” waivers). He treats each case as unique and devotes many firm resources in an “all-out” effort to obtain a successful conclusion that reunites a family. He is especially adept at criminal immigration issues, understanding the nuances that can mean the difference between success and deportation. Under his guidance, the firm has vacated numerous criminal convictions to cancel their effect on deportation and removal. 

Mr. Piibe’s experience before the Asylum Office and the Immigration Court gives his clients additional protection, and he has won several asylum cases involving complicated and technical issues, which most immigration attorneys would have declared hopeless. Mr. Piibe is a member of both the California State Bar as well as the federal District Courts, enabling him great latitude to appear in any Court to pursue his clients’ needs.

Carl Shusterman, Esq.
Certified Legal Specialist in Immigration & Nationality Law

Mr. Shusterman is a 1973 graduate of the UCLA School of Law. He served as an attorney for the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) until 1982 when he entered the private practice of law. He is authorized to practice before the Supreme Court of California, the Federal District Court, the U.S. Court of Appeals, Sixth, Seventh and Ninth Circuits and the Supreme Court of the United States. 

Mr. Shusterman is a former chairman of the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA), Southern California Chapter and served as a member of AILA’s National Board of Governors (1988-97). He has chaired numerous AILA Committees, spoken at dozens of AILA Conferences and has contributed a number of scholarly articles to AILA’s publications. 

Mr. Shusterman is a Certified Specialist in Immigration and Nationality Law, State Bar of California. He has served as a member of the Immigration and Nationality Law Advisory Commission for the State Bar. Each year since 2002, he has been voted as a Super Lawyer in Southern California by his colleagues in the bar. For each of the past 10 years, Mr. Shusterman has been voted as one of the Best Lawyers of America. He is listed in The International Who’s Who of Corporate Immigration Lawyers. 

Mr. Shusterman is a frequent writer and lecturer on immigration law. His articles, letters to the editor and quotes have appeared in such prestigious publications as the New York Times, Washington Post, Canada’s Globe and Mail, USA Today, Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal, National Law Journal, California Lawyer, Los Angeles Lawyer, Journal of the American Medical Association, Christian Science Monitor, Atlantic Monthly, Computer World, Information Week, Issues in Science and Technology, Variety, and numerous other publications. He has written for, and been quoted extensively in, leading periodicals specializing in immigration law including Interpreter Releases, Immigration Law and Procedure, Immigration Briefings, Inside Immigration, Immigration Journal and U.S. Immigrant Magazine. In addition, he has appeared on various television programs including NBC’s Today Show, CNN’s Headline News, the Nightly News with Peter Jennings and on a wide variety of nationally syndicated radio shows.

Mr. Shusterman has testified as an expert witness before the Senate Immigration Subcommittee in Washington, D.C.





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CLE Credit


CA General:  This program is approved for 6.0 units of general CLE in California.

This program is approved for CLE in the states listed above.  Upon request, Pincus Pro Ed will provide any information an attorney needs to support their application for CLE approval in other states other than what is listed above.


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Recorded in 2014.